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GiveMeABreak.com

by: Matt Singer

Mon May 14, 2007 at 09:22:22 AM MDT


By now, you may have heard about GiveItBack.com, a shadowy rightwing group with connections to Sideshow Scott Sales (ironic given that Scott Sales' own plan [Editors Note: Does Scott Sales have a plan?] doesn't meet the org's standards of rebating half the surplus to Montana residents [Editor's Note: Assuming, of course, that GiveItBack.com uses the term 'Montana Citizen' to mean 'Montana resident' -- people who are, in fact, citizens of the United States]).

The guy behind the org is a Bozemanite who works for RightNow Technologies. His entire operation is shady. Unfortunately, you wouldn't really know that from reading this story, for example.

Here are some questions I'd be asking this outfit if I was a reporter covering this, rather than simply writing a puff piece that they've got ads on the air (which is exactly what Daines was hoping for):

  1. Where's the money coming from? TV is not cheap and money doesn't just come in in droves when you launch a website (trust me, I know). Someone's financing this. Who?

  2. Why do the ads single out the Governor? Neither party, from what I can tell, has put forth a plan that fits the framework of the "organization" -- the Dems don't rebate enough, the GOP gives too much to non-Montana residents. Meanwhile, the tax decisions right now are really in the hands of the legislature, so why target the Governor? None of it makes any sense (Editor's Note: Unless the entire thing is a giant attempt to help Daines' buddy Scott Sales and his partners-in-crime Jon Sonju and Bob Lake get away with their shady moves to help protect tax shelters for non-residents).

  3. Where's the Bipartisan? Steve Daines has claimed that the effort is getting support from both sides of the aisle, but he has donated exclusively to Republicans (and mostly wingnut Republicans to boot). So where's the bipartisan? Even a mediocre astroturf operation will find someone to label with a big D to show their broad support.

  4. Where are the members? GiveItBack.com is registered as a Public Benefit Corporation with Members and says on its website that it is tax-exempt under section 501c4. Those organizations need to have members. Who are GiveItBack.com's members? How many does it have? How do you become one? What powers do members have? Who is on the board of directors? (This last piece should have to be filed with the Secretary of State, I think)

  5. Is GiveItBack.com properly filed? So far, all they've done is launch a giant astroturf lobbying effort. According to MCA 5-7-102, lobbying is "the act of promoting or opposing official action by any public official." An organization engaging in such activity must, under 5-7-208, "file with the commissioner a report of payments made for the purpose of lobbying." Part of that report (I know, 'cause I fill 'em out) is a report of earmarked contributions for lobbying. That's a good thing, since if GiveItBack.com is getting fat checks from Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform (or from some similar outfit) to run anti-Schweitzer ads, Montanans have a right to know about it. At this point, GiveItBack.com is not filed with the Commissioner of Political Practices (based on a search of that office's online reports). Now, I'm not an attorney, but my reading of that law says that paying large sums to run a massive astroturf lobbying operation means that you got to report what it is you're doing and who, if anyone, is funding it.
That's just a start, but it's a good one.

I just signed up for updates from GiveItBack.com.

By the way, David Crisp does a nice job explaining the underlying idiocy of the organization's stance. He's right, too. If this is the level of thinking at the top levels of RightNow, I won't be buying stock. Unfortunately, Crisp refers to GiveItBack.com as a "group," which it is legally, but that pretends that it has some large presence. I'd really doubt it and I'd want to see some hard numbers before I wrote it up.

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Now don't get your trousers in a twist quite yet, (0.00 / 0)
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I know Steve Daines from my Bozeman days, he's very bright and very honest, his family is rock solid good citizens in Bozeman and have been for years. He may not share the viewpoint of those leaning more left but he is NOT crooked by any means, he just differs in his opinion about what to do with the surplus and that's legitimate debate. Just because he comes from Bozeman does not mean he's tied to Sales. I'll agree with you that Sales has not shown any leadership qualities but tying him to Daines is way to big a stretch. Let this thing shake out, what I see Daines doing here is keeping the Governor honest about what his plans are for the surplus, to the average Montana taxpayer, they think they're being overcharged and Daines is making their case, I'm not saying this is right or wrong but it's honest dialogue and throwing cold bathwater on it at this point may not be fair. A bit of sunlight on this whole budget situation may be the best disinfectant we can ask for, for crying out loud, even Sen. Laslovich is crying foul, so let's see how this plays out, maybe even Sales/Lange/Sinrud are going to learn a few things from this.....let's hope so!

He may be a nice man (0.00 / 0)
But he's contributed to Sales, his ads are targeting someone with relatively little power compared to the legislators who will actually pass the bills in the coming days, and his operation is remarkably well-funded.

If he's funding this whole thing out of his own pocket, Montanans deserve to know that GiveItBack.com is nothing more than a single rich guy with his own opinions paying big money to disseminate them.

The fact that his proposals for the budget aren't particularly sound is a secondary problem in my mind.


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Legitimate debate?? (0.00 / 0)
Oh come ON, Rmom!  THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A FRIGGIN' LEGISLATURE!  So, now we must be subjected to rightwing ads ALL the time?!  I don't THINK so!  And I find offensive the hate campaign against Schweitzer.  It's EXACTLY what they did to Clinton.  The rightwing selects an amorphous personality trait lies about it endlessly, hoping that the public views all actions through the lie!  I mean, they claim Schweitzer's a "bully".  What the hell's THAT supposed to mean?  Nothing of course.  With Clinton it was "character".  This is the Pubies most oftened used technique, and all it accomplished was to juxatose reality versus rightwing labels.  The end result was overwhelming popularity for Clinton, and now with Schweitzer, while at the same time coarsening political discourse.  And as a result, the Pubbies lost their asses in the last election.  How smart IS this strategy?

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What's the matter Larry, (0.00 / 0)
Don't give me that stuff, Clinton was no saint and neither is Schweitzer and the public is finally being clued in to what this guy really stands for. So Steve Daines is getting the job done, good for him, you can always tell what dog you hit when you throw the rock into the pack of dogs, usually the one that yelps the loudest!

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Silly. (0.00 / 0)
I'm sorry, but  you're acting like a silly old woman now.  Did I say that Scwheitzer was a "saint"?  Nope.  I  said that he ISN'T a bully just  because that is the latest rightwing smear label.  And as for Clinton, it is simply amazing  that he was able to accomplish what he did in spite of the endless smears and attacks.  And still retain his popularity.  Ya know, he just appeared in Portland as part of a lecture series.  A large crowd sat enthralled for the couple of hours that he spoke.....WITHOUT NOTES!  And he is STILL welcomed in any country in the world without shutting down the entire country and turning it into a garrison like when bush travels.  Sainthood?  Maybe not.  But compared  to bush, it's grounds for cannonization!  And as I've mentioned, the Montana Pubbies are SO stupid that they use this  Rovian tactic on Schweitzer, another popular, charismatic, intelligent Dem!  I mean, really, just HOW smart IS  your side?  Again, for purposes of juxtaposition, your side, judy mars and cornbread burns.  Our side, Brian Schweitzer and Jon Tester.  YOU do the comparison.  Ya see, mom, I really don't CARE how stupid you folks are, for your self-destruction is nearly complete.  But it really doesn't benefite anyone in our state.  And this daine fella is by all appearances simply a little rightwing corporate puke who hasn't figured out the above yet!  More power to him.  I'm sure that your average  Montana just LOVES political commercials in the off season, and really stupid milk carton ads.  PAthetic.

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Oh Larry, I'm really NOT an old lady, (0.00 / 0)
I'm only 53 and one thing I am sure of is this, Steve Daines can keep his pants zipped that that's sure more than we can say about Slick Willy! If we're going to throw character into the debate let's compare apples to apples here!

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The ads are okay (0.00 / 0)
Dave Berg said they were bipartisan today, so they must be.

Funny that a puke like....... (0.00 / 0)
Berg, such an opinionated fella, never appears on a blog anywhere.  Guess that if you can't screen you calls, you're flyin' without a net!

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They are registered with the SoS office (0.00 / 0)
https://app.mt.gov/c...
and you could get a full report with officers (only you have to pay, I think)....sometimes if you get luck with a real nice assistant up there in the SoS office, they'll give you the info right over the phone.  This still doesn't address the Commissioner of Political Practices issues, though.

I signed up for updates on this a while back (I forget where I heard about it)  I've only got one, recently, announcing the crappy ads he has on radio and TV.  I recall he was soliciting donations back when I signed up for updates - but for the ads he has, I have to agree - he's getting cash from somewhere. (I, like you, sign up for updates from all kinds of crazy people.)

I do think, though, that he is advocating for the refund to go to taxpayers that actually paid income tax - and I went searching and found that on his April 30th update (link on left of front page.  He doesn't need LiTW sending people there..), he does say in there for the refund to go to Montanans that actually paid their taxes.

That being said - I went back to the site the other days, after those ridiculous ads came out (the one on the radio is especially stupid) and I had two impressions - #1 - he's running for something. #2 - He has a picture of him and his wife on the front page - so you get the impression that it is a joint effort (at least I did), but if you click on the "About Us" link, it comes up with only his bio.  I guess Cindy is only window dressing.  Nice guy (not!).


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